Sub Driver 2.0 Quick Facts
…Lost Sub Driver 2.0 quick facts
| Brand / shaper | …Lost Surfboards, Matt “Mayhem” Biolos |
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| Model history | The Sub Driver has been …Lost’s most successful small-wave competition board since Kolohe Andino’s 2011 run of five WQS wins; Mick Fanning famously grabbed one of Kolohe’s discarded Sub Drivers and blazed through heats at the Lowers Pro. The 2.0 followed, and has since been succeeded by the Sub Driver 3.0 |
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| Board type | Small-wave performance shortboard |
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| Best waves | Small to average surf: mushy points and weak, broken-up beach breaks. Developed in the soft, peeling points of San Clemente |
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| Skill level | …Lost says just about anyone with even modest skills can ride it as a daily driver: derived for the pros, perfect for most “Bros” |
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| Tail | Wide squash tail, or the wide, round “Thumb” tail |
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| Design | An even wider, more forgiving nose; a smoothed-out wide hip in the tail that angles into the wide squash; added thickness along the stringer with more vee deck and refined, lower-volume rails; a deeper concave in the rear third running to a slight vee behind the rear fin, with double concave through the tail |
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| Fins | Thruster (FCS II or Futures boxes). Best template: raked, drive-oriented, the type FCS pairs with the Sub Driver 3.0. Try the FCS II Mayhem Driver Tri or the Futures Mayhem 3.0. |
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| Stock sizes | Squash: Pro dims 4’10 to 6’6 (17.25 L to 39.50 L), Bro dims 4’10 to 6’8 (18.50 L to 44.00 L). Thumb: Pro dims 5’4 to 6’6 (22.00 L to 39.50 L), Bro dims 5’4 to 6’6 (23.10 L to 42.00 L) |
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| Sizing | …Lost designed it to be ridden 1" to 2" shorter than a Driver 2.0 or similar performance shortboard (the Thumb tail 2" shorter); a touch more volume than your regular shortboard |
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| Constructions we stock | Always: PU (poly), Light Speed II and Black Sheep Built. Also stocked at times: Light Speed, Black Dart, Double Dart, C4, Carbon Wrap and EPS. All constructions are available for custom order |
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| Custom orders | Yes, through our …Lost 3D board builder |
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Sub Driver 2.0 Q&A
What size Sub Driver 2.0 should I get?
…Lost says the wide nose and tail block, low tail rocker and generous dims let the Sub Driver 2.0 be ridden 1" to 2" shorter than a Driver 2.0 or similar performance shortboard, and the Thumb tail 2" shorter. We recommend a touch more volume than your regular shortboard, since it is a small-wave board. The squash tail comes in Pro dims from 4’10 (16.73" x 1.96", 17.25 L) to 6’6 (21.00" x 2.70", 39.50 L) and Bro dims from 4’10 (17.00" x 2.06", 18.50 L) to 6’8 (21.75" x 2.80", 44.00 L); the Thumb tail in Pro dims from 5’4 (18.00" x 2.15", 22.00 L) to 6’6 (21.00" x 2.70", 39.50 L) and Bro dims from 5’4 (18.25" x 2.22", 23.10 L) to 6’6 (21.50" x 2.80", 42.00 L). If you don’t know your volume, use the Volume calculator at the top of our …Lost 3D board builder: enter your height, weight, skill, fitness and the waves you surf, and it recommends a volume by board type, from shortboard to fish, hybrid and mid-length. Our shop staff can help you pick a size.
What fins does the Sub Driver 2.0 use?
The Sub Driver 2.0 is a thruster, and we stock it with FCS II or Futures boxes. FCS’s official …Lost fin guide pairs the Sub Driver 3.0 with the Mayhem Driver Tri, and the 2.0 shares its design brief. The template to look for is a raked, drive-oriented fin: on FCS II the Mayhem Driver Tri (Small, Medium, Large), which FCS pairs with the Driver 3.0 and …Lost’s other performance shortboards. FCS classes the Mayhem Driver as a Carver-family fin: an elongated template with more sweep (rake), built for hold and longer, drawn-out turns. FCS sizes these fins by weight: Small 120–155 lbs, Medium 145–175 lbs, Large 165–200 lbs. On Futures, the Mayhem 3.0 (Small, Medium, Large) is the matching rake template, Matt Biolos’s own signature fin, with the R-series Blackstix (R4, R6, R8) as the other rake option. Futures sizes its fins as Small 95–135 lbs, Medium 125–175 lbs and Large 165 lbs and up.
Should I get the Sub Driver 2.0 with a squash tail or a Thumb tail?
The wide squash is the original: …Lost says it creates a stable platform in small waves, with the hip ahead of it acting as a pivot point for tight, powerful turns. The round “Thumb” tail stays wide under the back foot but pulls in over the last few inches to reduce area behind the rear fin, which …Lost says lends more control and encourages precise surfing. Griffin Colapinto and Yago Dora rode Thumb tails to a 3rd place and the two highest-scoring lefts at the Surf Ranch Pro, and Kolohe Andino rode one through the 2021 Olympics.
What changed from the original Sub Driver to the 2.0?
…Lost lists an even wider, more forgiving nose that paddles in easier and builds momentum faster in sub-par surf; a smoothed-out, re-imagined wide hip in the tail for control at speed and easier bottom turns and cutbacks; added thickness along the stringer with more vee deck and refined, lower-volume rails; and a deeper concave in the rear third, running to a slight vee behind the rear fin with double concave through the tail.
What waves is the Sub Driver 2.0 for?
Small to average surf. …Lost developed it in the soft, peeling points of San Clemente and says it does especially well connecting the dots in mushy points or weak, broken-up beach breaks: a board built for competitors in sub-par surf that transitions perfectly to everyday surfers.
What skill level is the Sub Driver 2.0 for?
…Lost says just about anyone with even modest skills can ride it as a daily driver: it was derived for the pros, yet is perfect for most “Bros”.
Can I custom order a Sub Driver 2.0?
Yes. Use the Custom Order SUB DRIVER 2.0 button on this page, or open the …Lost 3D board builder directly, to design one: you choose the dims, construction, fin boxes, colors and art.
